Cool to see the forums working! 🙂

I've marked @Panagiotis-Milios more detailed explanation as the accepted solution, but kudos to you @Chris-Brown for pointing it out, and @Panagiotis-Milios for providing the detailed example. Thanks a bunch! 🙂

Thank you, fantastic. I appreciate all the information you have given.

Hello @Gavin-Beard!

We've had trouble reproducing this issue on our end. After some testing with a small app on MacOS and iOS, we have not been able to see the error you are encountering using Unity 2021.3.8.

If you could, please check out the app here and let us know if this issue is still persisting. It is a barebones authentication app and it should run on multiple devices. The Authentication.cs script has all the gory details. Just open up the Main scene under Assets > App > Misc > Main.unity to get it running. You will also need to add your brainCloud credentials, but you can copy the Authentication example template in brainCloud to test the app.

Please let us know how this app works on your end and if any issues are encountered! You should be able to click on any error logs in the in-app console to copy the log to your device's clipboard.

As for your specific issue, my best guess is that perhaps an external library of sorts might not be supported with brainCloud, such as the Newtonsoft Json.NET library. For JSON de/serializing, brainCloud comes with JsonFX. You can also make use of Unity's own JsonUtility for structured JSON de/serialization. Both the app I've shared and the examples on our GitHub make use of JsonFX extensively.

If you'd like to know more and see how a more robust app can handle brainCloud authentication, as Franco suggested, you should check out our Authentication example on our Unity Examples GitHub.

Hope this helps! Please let us know if you have further questions or inquiries about this.

@Paul-Winterhalder said in Async match without opponent:

Hi,

brainCloud currently offers two forms of matchmaking:

Offline matchmaking - for async match (i.e. words with friends) or one-way multiplayer (i.e. class of clans) style games. Both of those multiplayer types require you to have an opponent to play against when the match starts.

There is also online matchmaking - which uses our lobby system - which is suitable of any online / real-time sort of multiplayer.

(That one doesn't require you to have an opponent in mind when the lobby starts... and the lobby can start a match via a relay or room server session right away...)

That said - I get the feeling that you are talking about more of an async match scenario (i.e. not-necessarily-online multiplayer) - where the match can start before an opponent has been identified.

Am I correct that that is the scenario you are wanting to target?

It's an interesting approach - as there's a much lower chance of matching against another player who isn't going to respond in a timely manner.

Let me know if I've got the scenario right and we'll give it some more thought...

Paul.

Hi Paul,

Yes, you are correct. When a user starts a new game, it'd essentially see if someone has already started a game but has no opponent, If a match is found the second player will be added to the game and can then make their move. If no match is found that is awaiting a player, it'll create a new game, let player 1 make their move and then go "dormant" until a player two is ready.

If you have ever used the turn based aspect of Apples Game Center turn based service, this is essentially how that works.

These points above are indeed good examples regarding "forcing bad practices":

If I have 3 free API calls after the API call, after the 3rd freebie, I can return it and call again for 1 core + 3 more that can branch off again. This is inefficient for BC, yet beneficial for end-users (thus, forcing bad practices since it costs and gives more if we avoid the pre and post hooks).

If a workaround to save API costs would be more work for the user, and costs more for BC, that's a lose-lose. If such a "hole" exists, shouldn't it be repriced for that consideration to make it the win-win you folks want it to be?

@JasonL
Thank you!!

Hello Gavin and Andreas, apologies for the late response. Could you give more information to reproduce the crash you're experiencing in iOS? I've attempted to reproduce the crash and 202 error and I wasn't able to. For these cases versions are important so if you could provide the Unity Engine version, iOS version, and what iPhone device used to test with.

Hi Chris,

User entities are primarily indexed by profileId + entityType - so the singleton API will scale well no matter how many players you have.

That said, if your use case gets more complicated, with say hundreds of entities of a particular type per user (say maybe you are modelling user created towns, that sort of thing) - you could consider using Owned Custom Entities instead. You can define addition, custom indexes for those... keeps those lookups fast and efficient.

In addition, if you end up having >1000 Global Entities, you should definitely look at switching to Unowned Custom Entities. Same deal - you can define your own custom indexes...

Hope that helps!

Paul.

Hi @Alexandru ,

We've just officially added the Segment call you're looking for to brainCloud 4.55 - which is targeted for release in the next ~30 days...

Updated Roadmap here - https://portal.productboard.com/braincloud/1-braincloud-baas-roadmap

Paul.

@JasonL I understand the reason, but please do provide a way to pass custom data to authenticate api so we can use that data to set user displayname or profile picture or soemthing else on post-hook.
Without this, we have no choice but to call a seperate call from client (so no beneift of 2 free api inside cloud call)

No problem - happy to help!

Paul.

Happy to help! 👍

Thanks guys! I figured it would be ridiculous if I had to do timeout checks and retries myself 🙂

Follow-up on this...

My guys have looked into it, and the way we version our global files isn't compatible with this new feature from Unity. Apologies!

(PS - No plans yet for when/if we'll support it. Certainly tons of folks use an external CDN with brainCloud apps though - so the option is still there for you!)

Happy to help! 🙂

Paul.

D'oh - bit late on the update, but 4.1 has been released, and you can now search on isOpenGroup (as well as the new groupSummaryData).

4.1 Release notes here - https://getbraincloud.com/apidocs/release-4-1/

Cheers!

Paul.

Update 3 - okay - the networking optimization is back in place now.

(Though we haven't turned it on for the Portals yet - just want to ensure there aren't any issues first...)

Paul.

FYI - this feature was added in brainCloud 4.13 - https://getbraincloud.com/apidocs/release-4-13/

If your app uses Global Entities, don't forget to Export/Import the required entities from the Dev->Staging->Live apps. You can export all, or some via the Bulk Actions Menu within the Monitoring/Global Monitoring/ Global Entities page.

More about Global Entity File Export Formats are here, https://getbraincloud.com/apidocs/api-modules/global-entity-file-formats/

Hope this helps!

I like the new forums. It was something I always felt was lacking and with the quick response time, they have already proven to be very useful. Hopefully this helps connect developers using brainCloud together as well as with the brainCloud team.